Comments on: Do Stories need Puzzles?

By: Mary Brown

Mary Brown — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:45:10 +0000

(That is awful! I’ve never understood people who read the last page. It would ruin it for me. )
The answer to your question is “Yes, if you want someone to enjoy reading it.” You’ve answered it yourself, earlier. You can only read about a quiet day lying on the beach for a short time before you fall asleep. There must be a reason to be there. It doesn’t have to be a murder or other crime, but some reason besides catching some rays. The writing course I started taking made it very clear that there needs to be a conflict to resolve for a story to be marketable.
On the other hand, if you are just writing or telling a story for your own or others’ amusement or to pass the time or to relate an event, it wouldn’t need a puzzle, necessarily.

It sounds like your dad is prejudiced against historical fiction, if he’s so sure he won’t like it but has never read it. That’s also OK. There’s enough to read without learning to like a new genre just because somebody thinks you will like it. Maybe he’s just being contrary. Some dads are like that!

By: --Deb

--Deb — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:33:05 +0000

My question, though, is whether a story NEEDS a puzzle?

(And no, to my knowledge, he’s never peeked at the back of the book. I confess that I sometimes do, though–isn’t that awful?)
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By: Holly

Holly — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:24:37 +0000

The point is, he wants to be able to solve the puzzle.

He doesn’t want to read about personal challenges, character growth or development, he wants puzzles. Nor is it likely that paranormal events or romances interest him in the least.

With history, true crime, he already knows the answer. That takes away all the fun.

Let him have his fun. I am willing to bet that he never turns to the back of the book and reads the ending first.

By: --Deb

--Deb — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:06:01 +0000

Pip–this is my argument to him all the time. You don’t need terrorists and murderers to make a good story, but he only likes the kind of books where somebody is trying to solve something, and real life just won’t do. (I don’t think he’s read a history book since he got out of school.)

I absolutely agree that stories need some kind of conflict to be interesting (because you can only read about a serene day at the beach before so long before falling asleep), but my argument with Dad is that it doesn’t have to be a Mystery to be a worthwhile story. But then, I don’t understand the sports thing, either, so…
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By: Pip Hunn

Pip Hunn — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:01:02 +0000

I’m not sure you have to have a ‘puzzle’, per-se, but you definitely need challenges in your story.
Puzzles are a great way of presenting a challenge:
“How will I save this princess?”
“How can I stop this disease / murderer / awkward facial tic?”

Perhaps if the history books your Dad reads are presented without making the challenges that historical figures have overcome ‘real’ enough. This shows weak writing from the authors. After all, historical events aren’t noteworthy unless some challenge was faced down.

By: --Deb

--Deb — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:14:30 +0000

True stories CAN be written in boring, textbook ways, it’s true, but the good ones are NOT, but my Dad doesn’t like anything with a whiff of “history,” no matter how hard I try.

But, really, that’s not the point. The question isn’t what my Dad likes to read, but whether you need to have a puzzle as part of a story, to make it a GOOD story?

By: Kelvin Kao

Kelvin Kao — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:51:55 +0000

Perhaps your dad thinks real-life stories tend to be written like history textbooks, which aren’t always written in the most interesting or entertaining ways. I wonder how your dad react to romanticized version of real historical events or fiction based on history.

Fiction does an edge for being more entertaining though, because they (the writers) can change the characters’ actions and the sequence of events for maximum dramatic effect.
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